Programming on the Edge

jSeamless: The Conspiracy

Published by Matt Hicks under , , , , , , on Tuesday, September 18, 2007
Okay, so this probably doesn't par up to the JFK assassination, those crop circles, or how in the world John Locke can survive a bullet in the chest, but it's starting to really bother me.

I developed jSeamless with the intent of "seamlessly" bringing technologies together to make life easier on the developer. However, I'm starting to realize that the people that make these technologies would rather not see this happen. I never considered that anyone could understand the concepts of what I'm trying to do and actually put in some extra effort to stop me. I figured at worst people would just not care and let it pass by without another look, but that's not what seems to be happening.

First Point -

Now that jSeamless has become much more stable and has the majority of features necessary to release I thought would be the place to go to get some good advertising. So I filled out a form requesting that jSeamless be featured along with an article I had written hoping to get some additional developer interest in the framework. After a couple weeks I e-mailed the editor and asked about it. The basic summation was that it would be a conflict of interest to post anything on their site about jSeamless since it directly competes with Swing because it uses Flash as the reference implementation. Now, I can understand if the purpose of jSeamless was to only do Flash development, but jSeamless is about abstraction and it just so happens the only currently completed implementation uses Flash content. I was told to send them another e-mail when there's a completed Swing implementation...we'll see how that goes.

Point Two - FlexCoders

I hang out on the FlexCoders Yahoo! Group to find answers to problems I'm having with Flex integration into jSeamless and to find out new extensions that are being written to Flex that I might be able to integrate or derive ideas from for jSeamless. I decided to post a message to the group asking for feedback from the Java developers that are also developing in Flex to get some ideas of what features they would look for in an API like jSeamless. I actually got some really good responses, I messaged back with additional information and then suddenly all the posts disappeared without a trace.

There was no e-mail letting me know I had violated some rule of the group or anything. I know the group is run primarily by people that work at Adobe, so I can only assume it had to do with marketing a framework that could take away revenue from their commercial products.

There actually several other scenarios that have had similar results, but I'm really starting to feel a lot of resistance for this system. I never imagined that I was developing something controversial or even something that would get anything worse than indifference about. This causes some problems since I was hoping to get some support from companies like Adobe or Sun in the long-run, but it would seem they don't really want such a project to succeed.

I guess this doesn't really classify as real conspiracy, but it bugs me so I figured I would share my annoyance with the world. :)


Dmitriy Likhten said... @ December 28, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Sun is trying to push for the java-based version of flex. If jSeamless competes with that then they might not want to allow it, especially if it uses their competitor flex sdk.

2) FlexCoders
Adobe cannot make any money from flash or flex sdk HOWEVER adobe's money-making scheme is selling tools. Tools like Flex Developer which runs a few hundred dollars a license per year.

So jSeamless provides a FREE sdk which allows for coding in java (free using eclipse, also free) and running the results in flash (flex) without the need to use flex developer... Wooh you just pulled they dollar signs from under their feet.

Now get that site running again so I can try out the new version :)

Matt Hicks said... @ December 28, 2008 at 6:25 PM

Sorry about the site being down. I just got it back online. With all the holiday stuff I haven't been keeping a good eye on it.

Thanks for the heads-up. :)

Anonymous said... @ January 20, 2009 at 4:43 AM

Dont loose heart man, look at Gnash.

I think u should make the irony into a legend. Hence

I think u should think of focusing only on Gnash, netbeans plugin for Jseamless with OpenJdk.

Since this is already working, i am sure many like me will jump to use it. Ignore the titans and focus on the programmers.

If Programmers are with you, u need no one else.

i am old school but newbie to java; many tried and failed

but what matters is if u can hold on till u win.

Now think, why are we commenting on this old blog now !

- Logically Genius

Anonymous said... @ January 27, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Hi Matt,

look at the poll at the right side in that link.

please delete this comment after that poll vanishes form there. i think u should join some like them.

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